Opto Jade Vikt:160 Newer players will find this

Newer players will find this disc a straight flyer with predictable fade

The Leopard makes a dependable long range roller

24 zinc-coated chains around a heavy-duty metal center pole keeps the Trainer Lite standing up well in relation to its weight

and 16 zinc-coated chains

making a perfect ally for long turnover shots and precise

Opto Jade Vikt:160 Newer players will find thisSpeed 9 Glide 6 Turn 2 Fade 1 The Jade is designed to be a little more stable for players who loved the Diamond, but as their game developed needed a disc that could handle a bit more speed. It sits very comfortably in the hand, with a good tactile feel to the plastic and it holds the angles well. You CAN turn it over but unless you really force it, it fades back at the end. A very nice, reliable, and moderately stable disc.