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Saddle - Brooks B17s (short), Special Color:Antique Brown but telling us you haveB17 Special Short This is the fancy and smaller "short" version of the Brooks B17. This is a Special because the lower edge of the side flap is hand beveled (skived), and the rivets holding the leather to the frame are 13mm wide copper and set by hand with a hammer, rather than small steel and machine set. Also the steel frame and rails have a brass like chrome finish instead of a black powder coat. The difference is cosmetic, and if you like the